The Forsgren Family Association met for its bi-annual reunion at the Community Center in Brigham City yesterday, August 7th. The Forsgren scrolls were updated and hauled out to line the floor once again. So glad to rub shoulders with the faithful descendants who always come to the reunion. Had about an equal number of John E. Forsgren and Peter Adolph descendant representatives. Sadley, no one was there to bless the memory of Christina Erika Forsgren.
The Peter Forsgren descendants cover the top 3 rows of paper. John E's are at the bottom and Christina Erika's descendants are the smaller group at the left side of the picture. Erika descendant's unite! We need more data!
President Lester Lee Knight showed slides of each of the families of the three Forsgren children and the original home in Sweden.
Lester and Adele presented the option of abandoning this "umbrella" organization now that several on-line resources have been created for the dissemination of information and because it is growing harder and harder to contact family members about the reunions. E-mail and home addresses change with much more frequency than they did 15 years ago. Postal costs are huge and many letters and emails get returned.
No one really has the heart to abandon, however. The decision was made to contine uploading more information to the internet and to meet at least one more time in two years and re-evaluate then. No one wanted to take on the roll of President so Lester and Adele will work together again for the 2012 reunion. (It was agreed it will take place in either July or August so we don't interfere with BYU Football season. Grin for Arnold Wagner!!)
A report was made on the successful completion of two other projects: The
renovation of the original Peter Forsgren pioneer home on 1st East, completed by David Ericson and his son Scott from Salt Lake. Scott and Karen and their young family have moved into the home which now boasts wonderful modern appliances, flooring, etc. while still retaining many of the original features of the home.
The Cemetery Headstone project has also been completed. Five small stones commemorating the deceased infants of Adolph Peter & Dena Forsgren were raised and reset. Also the broken stone for Charles Peter Lee has been repaired and reset. All were done with with great care and excellent workmanship by the Bott Monument Company. (The Botts are related thru marriage, by the way!)
An additional note on headstones for the record: The old pioneer stone which used to be the main marker for the Peter Adolph/Adolph Peter burial area was removed many years ago and replaced with a more modern stone. The original stone was saved by the family and is at the home of Mark Forsgren, son of Frank Forsgren, longtime supporter of the reunions. It might eventually go back to the cemetery...but for now will remain in the backyard of Mark's family. The stone had incorrect information on it. It was engraved Peter O (instead of Johan O) on one side of the stone
Below is an old photo of the family plot showing the placement of the 5 small stones as well as the two tall pioneer stones which once were there. The stone shown above is the one on the right in the photo below.
The repaired & reset Charles P. Lee stone
Attendees: Laurie Bryant, S.L. researcher on John Erik Forsgren, Arnold and Diane Wagner, President Lester Knight
Richard and Joleen Wright - Longtime supporters of John Erik descendants
The Tom and Zola Forsgren clan - Peter Adolph descendants
Judd & Nona Forsgren - mover and facilitator of getting the John E. bust sculpted by his daughters and placed in Gavle, Sweden
Scott and Joyce Lee from St. George
Morris and Dellalee Forsgren. Morris has been past president and vice-president more than once. And he makes GREAT homemade root beer!
Sorry I haven't uploaded all of the photos...and sorry we didn't get photos of all who attended. We are, nonetheless, so glad for your attendance, your contributions, and your good food!
Posted below is the handout I prepared for all the attendees about the sources used for uploading information to on-line sites for the benefit of all who might be interested researchers.
On-line Resources for Forsgren Materials
(Report prepared for the August 2010 Family Reunion by Adele Manwaring Austin, Assn. Sec/Archivist)
Adele Austin 535 Fogg St. Las Vegas, NV 89110-4034 Ph. 702 452-0461 email: vaustin4@cox.net
In an effort to make available all the information stored at my home in the form of the “Forsgren Family Association Archives” to interested researchers and descendants of Johan Olaf Forsgren I have set up the following on-line resources. I opted NOT to create a web-site where it is all available in one place simply because I do not have the training to create web-sites and because web-sites come with their own challenges that make getting the information up and usable a bit of a frustration.
Please be aware that all of the sites are very much works in progress. I will continue to add to them as I collect & receive information, analyze it or get it scanned and processed. Please visit the sites often as they will be ever-changing!
Please also note that I do not pretend to be an authority on all the branches and descendants of the three Forsgren siblings that came to Utah! I welcome input from each of you as well. The whole direction of family history, especially as created by the Church, is to emphasize community and collaboration. “WE is better than ME” is the motto. I will come to certain conclusions based on the information I have available. Other descendants will have access to photos, biographical sketches, records and sources that have not been submitted to me for inclusion in the archives which could fill out or change data I currently have. Please contribute; please analyze and question my conclusions; please share your family records & photos with all of us.
Lastly, I would ask you to share this handout with other family members. Our mailing and e-mail lists just do not stay current, so getting the word out to everyone not in attendance at this reunion will be a bit of a costly challenge. I would be happy to send this handout as an email attachment to anyone requesting it so it can be forwarded on to other family members.
Here are the various resources that will include Forsgren family information:
BLOGS
Blog Definition: A blog (also called a weblog or web log) is a website consisting of entries (also called posts) appearing in reverse chronological order with the most recent entry appearing first (similar in format to a daily journal). The weakness to a blog is that you will have to search thru older posts to find all the information I have made available. The strength to the blog is that I can be personal and that uploading and changing information and photos is very simple.
I have set up a separate blog for each of the three convert Forsgren siblings. They will contain histories, photos and descendant information. Announcements for reunions, pleas for research help will also appear there. In the lower right corner is a link where you could sign up to become a “follower”, meaning that anytime I post new information to the blog you would be notified. At the end of each post there is also a place where you can make a comment on the content. If you do not wish to comment publicly on the blog, please feel free to contact me by e-mail, phone or regular mail (addresses above).
If this all seems overwhelming solicit the help of one of your computer-savvy children or grandchildren who can help you get started. For them this is all second nature. Here are the addresses for the three blogs. Please visit and enjoy.
• johnerikforsgren.blogspot.com
• peteradolphforsgren.blogspot.com
• christinaerikaforsgren.blogspot.com
FORSGREN ANCESTRAL LINES (Johan Olaf & Anna Christina Forsgren going backwards)
If you are seeking information on the ancestors of one of the siblings you will find the best information on the Church’s website new FamilySearch. (new.familysearch.org). It is not something I have created, but is available there by virtue of years of descendant contributions and temple work including work done during the lifetime of our ancestors.
This website is currently available to LDS Church members only. It is accessed by registering your unique LDS membership number and the date of your confirmation (NOT your baptism) Both the member number and the date are available from your ward clerk. Help in using the site for the first time can be requested from your ward family history consultant. Only information on deceased people will be located on this site. You will not find the names of living individuals unless they are of your own children (and that information is viewable only to you when you sign in with the user name and password you will create).
Please note that newFamilySearch is still in transition. It will eventually be renamed “Family Tree” and will be incorporated into the Church’s current familysearch.org website which is available to all users, whether LDS or not.
You are likely to find Forsgren ancestral information on other websites such as Ancestry.com and Rootsweb.com which allow people to upload genealogical information. Just be aware that a family tree is only as reliable as the care the uploader has given it. Many of our trees have been copied and recopied from other family members over long periods of time and may or may not be totally accurate.
FORSGREN DESCENDANCY LINES (Moving forward from a common ancestor)
Because descendancy research involves the names of living people, privacy issues come into play. I will not upload the complete list of descendants to any website for that reason. Please contact me directly for a complete list of descendants of your ancestor and I will be happy to send you a copy of whatever I have available.
• The descendants list for John Erik Forsgren currently is 18 pages
• The descendants list for Christina Erika Forsgren Davis is 10 pages
• The descendants list for Peter Adolph Forsgren is 81 pages
We are now into the 9th generation from Johan Olaf. For many lines I still do not have information beyond the 5th or 6th generations! If you can help with the association’s goal of tracking living descendants that would be a great help. I will accept the information in any format that it is comfortable for you to send it. As you can see, there is great need to get additional information for both John E Forsgren and Christina E. F. Davis. I would love to work with any interested volunteer who is willing to track descendants and strong-arm them for some data!!
FORSGREN PHOTOS
A. Miscellaneous photos will show up on the blogs to accompany the articles that go with them.
B. Headstone photos. I am always taking photos of Forsgren family headstones – particularly in Brigham City Cemetery and the Riverton, Idaho Cemetery. I have been uploading them for several years to the website findagrave.com so that they are available to anyone who wishes to see them or download them to their own files. YOU CAN ALSO DO THIS! (And should!). I would especially like help getting the photos online of descendants in the Ogden, Salt Lake and other outlying & non-Utah cemeteries. This is a free website to both visit and upload information to. (There are other headstone websites. I just happened to choose this one). On findagrave.com you can upload a digital image of the headstone as well as photos of the ancestor. There is room for biographical information and for the actual citation of the headstone location as well.
C. Photos of Individuals. I have begun uploading all the photos I have of Forsgren ancestors and descendants to the website FLICKR (http://www.flickr.com/ My photostream is under Adele Austin2010). This is a recent project and things are not very organized there yet, so be patient. You can also add digital photos you might have in your possession to share with other Forsgren relatives. (Please send me a copy too if you see you have photos the Forsgren Family Assn archives does not have.)
D. Photos of Buildings, Documents, etc. Many of these will also be found on the blogs, but I will add them to the Flickr website as well.
OTHER ARCHIVAL PROJECTS
At a recent genealogy conference I attended, great emphasis was made on recording living history and record preservation. (The Church, by the way, is emerging as a world leader in this field!).
I have the equivalent of about 5 legal file drawers of “stuff” at my house that needs to be preserved digitally. Over the next couple of years I will be taking time to scan what I can and get it saved to Milleniata CD’s which are purported right now to be the longest-lasting available medium for long-term preservation. (Anyone want to volunteer to help???) Much of the paper (mostly family group sheets) will be disposed of after appropriate back-up has been made just to reduce the sheer quantity of material. The preserved copy of this material, then, can be passed on to whomever will succeed me as Secretary/Archivist with additional copies placed in the hands of other Forsgren descendants for safekeeping.
It is my hope that each of YOU will look closely at what you have in your own homes and take the time to do the same. Don’t let someone pass away before the family photos are identified or the family story is told. Take time to back up your files and to digitize photos and important documents. I ache when I can’t solve a “mystery” because records were destroyed by persons who did not know of their value. If you feel “too old” to pick up all this new-fangled computer stuff then be happy doing what you can: preserving the records for posterity. Talk into a tape and reminisce. Identify the photos you have. Tell your memories of the people who are no longer with us. Record your own life story in the simplest manner possible. Involve your children or grandchildren in these projects. Our hearts can’t turn to our ancestors (who are very much alive, by the way, and don’t really want to be forgotten!) if we never talk to someone else about these people.
If you ever feel guilt when the speaker from the pulpit talks about family history just remember that there are multiple ways we can serve in this field: temple attendance, indexing of original records so that millions can have access (See familysearchindexing.org), scrapbooking, holding reunions at a lower family level than this umbrella organization, spending time with grandkids, etc. etc. If you aren’t one of the ones who feel like research is something you can do then think how you could be involved in some other way.
I am only one. But together we can have quite an impact on Forsgren memories! Happy goal setting!